Hypophosphorous acid 2.0

H3PO2 was my most popular post. They must like how I spell it. A lot of information was passed in my previous post, “Postwar”, and so, much of it was superfluous. Also, it was half italics, and the posts underneath were all italicized. I had to reverse a DOS command to get it fixed. That’s how dumb I am. I mean, there are pictures of a guy blowing his hand off in, “The Anarchist’s Cookbook”. If it was laboratories, I could pass for a worker. If it is computers, not. Computers do not deliver any material things, though. They will continue to be vital in industry, as long as there is industry, which should be about five years. So, I knows me drugs, I knows me explosives, and so do a lot of others. When there were no computers, but there were scientists, the scientists made it explicit exactly how these computers would work. When not bossing peons around, the physicists made the first batches of speed in their atomic-bomb laboratories, and elsewhere. No one knew how they could be so smart, and why they were so eccentric. They let them be. As the books were written detailing all phases of science, to hide the good stuff among great volumes of “work”, when the topic would get close to speed, the human beings doing the writing could not help but hint at the possibilities without saying so explicitly. Then, as now, using dope would mean getting fired. Still, it comes along that in Org Syn, it’ll say, “This provides a general method for the preparation of secondary amines”. Meth is a secondary amine. Notice they did not say, “First you grab some pipettes and jam them in your pants leg and try to make it out of the room.” It is just very cool. “This will result in a very high yield of the desired 4,5-diester boca rattan mononucleosis fried hockey boogienophilic Raddison Hotel-Lane. Can I fix you a shot?” “Sure”. “Now this will feel like a beesting.”
I left out before that although people are crated up in droves on the planet and have no actual talent, it is a fiction, they only act as if talent exists, and they have plenty of it, in the clothes they wear, the glasses holding the drinks they drink, the way they shoot their cuffs, their golf swing, etc. (except my generation was retarded, maybe by the gamma rays. Christopher Reeve became quadriplegic in 1995 and lived that way ten years).
The H3PO2 is not made by you, not to my knowledge. Notice that gold is hoarded, but phosphorous is not hoarded. It is like old dynamite, sweating nitroglycerine. I mean, all these things are each one idiosyncratic. There is no hard-and-fast rule. Does your planet allow for a liquid phase of water? I had to ask. Does $1,000 worth of gasoline turn into gum? Did you try it? Did you wait twenty years? H3PO2 seems better to me to have bought and buried a long time ago than elemental phosphorous. I have no doubt all these things would have been storable. Why didn’t we stash some? I don’t know. Nobody knows.
The genius who expostulated that H3po2 would substitute for P did it when it wouldn’t do much good. If P is an ingredient for it, why make it when P is the one in the original formula? The whole idea was based on the outmoded concept that chemicals can be diverted from legitimate commerce. All the drug makers in legitimate commerce are gone by virtue of our prevailing political conservatism. The use for H3PO2 is in electroless nickel. I had plenty of it once. I didn’t make speed at the time. It was 1978, in Escondido, at Palomar Plating. The owner had a chemist, and she charged him for every formula she developed, and he fired her. I went in there and he said, “I want electroless nickel, and Sta-Buff charges $30/ gallon for it. Can you make it?” I ordered the stuff, including sodium hypophosphite. Well, now you can’t. If you want to know how it’s made, you look in Reagents, by Feiser and Feiser. If you want to know who sells it all around the world, you look in Chem Sources. You don’t waste my time on the internet. I hit a prime number, fuck you, 691, at “internet”. Er, Olive God (aw, god–>all of god–>olive god), ‘save draff’? Well, it said I was good. It hit light? It read light. It red light? naw, there’s no, “It red light”, you stupid Mexican. It blue light. Hemmingway blew his head off because he wasn’t happy with how the story read when he read it back. It’s in the suicide note. My first Feiser was where I should have stuck. I can’t upload my sources until tommorrow, and the connection sucks in Vegas. I have to do a Colombian yet. what a day. This year they’re all five. “I said ‘no”, he says. They beat my generation. So I upload everything in a scanfest and comment on them as I post them, I guess. Wants to make H3PO2. Dudecycle, meth manufacturing is for academic purposes, it is not really possible, you squirrel, you Poindexter. Did you even hear of “hypo”? Hand me that hypo so’s I can go geeze? No. Hypo is sodium thiosulfate. It’ll take out purple iodine stains. It’ll destroy any leftover iodine, in anything xs I2 would chew up. Starch from a potato, iodine, tincture of, and hypo is a good experiment. Iodine in a war is a disinfectant. Straighten out that gauze.

14 Responses to “Hypophosphorous acid 2.0”

  1. MisterNinety10 Says:

    I’d disagree but for fucks’ sake why? Happened upon this, as everything seems to happen. Best minute so far today.

    • sbillinghurst Says:

      You can disagree. I welcome criticism. Go for it. I have no way of knowing what part within, “H3PO2″ you disagreed with; I’d love to know. Oh, BTW, to substitute for iodine, we have just got ready to put forth (you first), iodine teat dip, and iodoform, CI3.

  2. K Miller Says:

    Enjoy everything I anit on your level guys but it makes fucking good reading and the humour its out there, anyway Sodium Phosphate equal amounts of hcl and h2o heat till Na chloride precipitates and you end up with density of about 11.5 I beleive that this gives you H3PO2

    • sbillinghurst Says:


      inorganic syntheses

      Thank you for your comment, K. Miller. There were only 100 comments, now there are 101. With such a small number, I can spend some time on it.

      There is a long-recognized need for reliable preparations, so, Organic Syntheses was published. H3PO2 is not organic. It does not have a carbon atom. Another publication appears, Inorganic Syntheses. I tried to put some links there, but that’s because I was answering K. Miller with his proposed synthesis in his comment.

      It does not work like that. Needs exist because of problems, and the presence of the internet has made these problems worse. Anybody can write anything.

      I can say thanks to you for any comment, but, I can’t say thank you for a fake prep, unless politeness is everything. I am not going to be able to verify that an NaCl ppt from NaPO4 + HCl + H2O leaves the desired material. Can I discount it? Well, yeah. Notice that the P is highly oxidized. “4″ tells you that. Sure and the correct elements are present in the starting material and product, but the oxidation state is different.

      In fact, I have done this many times, and a strong acid just creates another strong acid, in this case phosphoric acid, not hypophosphorous.

  3. Space Bomb Chef Says:

    The synthesis I’ve been using when when I run out of Dextrostat and Adderall is a very easy synthesis that just yields about .7g of around 85-90 pure glass-which suffices since I’m done start to finish includ. Cleanup and drying in about 3 hrs.So, my synthesis HAS TO use a phosphorus salt or crystal- so, Do you have a quick synthesis to convert H3PO2 gas into into an HCL salt or freebase? Thanks and awesome alternate idea to RP

    • sbillinghurst Says:

      I don’t know why people would think that if you do the right steps it yields product. The field is in intellectual property. You are not communicating. You say “H3PO2″, but if that formula is there, how about putting the name down too, so we don’t go around in circles. You say it’s a gas. It’s a low-melting solid. H3PO3, phosphorous acid, is a solid. H3PO2, hypophosphorous acid, melts at 80 F, and decomposes when it boils.

      PH3 is toxic to keeling over dead, not burning your lungs out. That gas is probably equivalent to P. Gases are handled by manifolds and Schlenk ware.

      What did you say, freebase? Of an ACID? Yeah, you did. Am I supposed to be jealous of your 3-hour synth? I wouldn’t even take that. It ruined my life.

      I’m joking. My life is so fine.

  4. jacobensis Says:

    im an organic chemist- you guys need to be realy carefull. please dont try any chemistry- at all.

    • sbillinghurst Says:

      My chemistry degree is from UCSD, 1984. I shall do all the chemistry I want to, and, you are as ignorant as fuck, starting with not offering a shred of proof that you are well-versed in the art, but managing to misspell “careful”, one of the few words you use in a sentence that would get you in harm’s way in an English class over sixth grade.

  5. Alz Says:

    Brilliant ! You would make a great extra(if your not already in the ‘industry’) in a monty python type movie….great timing in dry humour,but please be ‘carefulllll’……..keep up the good work….always look on the bright side of life ; )

    • sbillinghurst Says:

      I serve everything on the menu all mixed up in a bucket.
      Note: As long as there’s a post, I hope the hypofofo question is answered negatively. I think DEA says, I agree, it releases a lot more phosphine. Since we’d look silly all fossy, it’s probably ludicrous to get poisoned this way, voluntarily. The particular warrior aspect of the specialization demands we shove back if there’s no real reason to risk it. This product is dangerous compared to boiling red phosphorus in hydriodic acid, IMO.

  6. Terry Uprichard Says:

    10 years main stream honouring people that can back their knowledge in and out of prison and you guys are either that scattered its time for a breather or answer some basic questions with basic answers.Any assistance my end -done Tez..cool bandandas .straight tattooing interesting bloke …I can read a bible from ten miles out and class it A1 bullshit.p2p man nbk hunter..Honour All ideas Tattoos are hard trade….
    .. Terry..Australia
    all replies hounored with art or great gratitude

    • sbillinghurst Says:

      “I define these terms…somehow.” On my say-so, the luminaire Terry Uprichard has special extended boundaries to no extent revocable in these Great United States. In time, everyone will sell tattoos in strong on the second layer of skin below the internet.

  7. Atomizer Says:

    Hi, love the write up, thank you very much – is Na2S2O3 (sodium thiosulfate) a direct replacement for Hypophosphorous acid? Or have I got the “Hypo” mixed up with Hypophosphorous acid?

    • sbillinghurst Says:

      No, the oxidation curves for sulfur and phosphorus show where that crosses this equilibrium off-the free energy isn spontaneous rabbitin’.

      Heck, Vladdy sent us one.

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